Bedrock Talks from Bedrock Learning

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Bedrock Talks from Bedrock Learning

Welcome to Bedrock Talks, a podcast from the team at Bedrock Learning that delves deep into the heart of literacy in education. Hosted by the insightful and experienced educator Andy Sammons, this podcast stands as a beacon for anyone passionate about enhancing literacy skills and understanding its pivotal role in education.Each episode is a journey into the world of literacy education. Andy brings together a diverse array of voices from across the education sector, from seasoned teachers to renowned academics, policy makers to literacy advocates. All of our guests share a common goal: to explore and expand the horizons of literacy education.We go beyond surface-level conversations. Our discussions are in-depth, nuanced, and filled with insights that only years of experience and expertise can bring. We tackle a wide range of topics, from innovative teaching methods to the latest research in literacy, the impact of technology on reading and writing, to strategies for engaging diverse learners. Our aim is to provide a platform where the complexities of literacy are unpacked and understood in a way that is both accessible and enlightening.Join Andy and his guests as they illuminate the multifaceted world of literacy. Subscribe to Bedrock Talks and be part of a community that believes in the transformative power of literacy. Together, let's shape a more literate, informed, and connected world.

  1. 36. What does literacy utopia look like, and how can we get there? with Jennie Shearer

    MAY 6

    36. What does literacy utopia look like, and how can we get there? with Jennie Shearer

    What if every secondary school teacher knew how to teach a child to read? What if we stopped treating literacy as simply spelling and grammar exercises and instead recognised it as the foundation of all learning? In this thought-provoking conversation with English teacher and literacy lead Jennie Shearer, we explore the troubling reality that most teachers have never been taught how to support struggling readers. Jennie shares her frustration with CPD sessions that fail to address this fundamental gap in teacher knowledge. "If students don't understand what we're asking them—not because they don't understand the question but because they don't understand the words—it's irrelevant," she explains, highlighting why the traditional approach to literacy instruction falls short for our most vulnerable learners. Drawing from her extensive experience as both a literacy lead and classroom teacher, Jennie offers practical strategies that any teacher can implement. We discuss the power of grounding new concepts in familiar contexts, exploring etymology and word roots, and reconceptualising literacy as more than just technical accuracy. The conversation moves beyond the mechanics of reading to consider how vocabulary instruction opens doorways to deeper conceptual understanding across all subjects. The discussion takes a powerful turn when we consider the broader implications of literacy beyond school walls. With approximately 15-18% of adults lacking functional literacy, the stakes couldn't be higher. As Jennie poignantly notes, the difference between survival and thriving often comes down to whether students can access information independently. Whether you're an English teacher, science specialist, or school leader, this conversation challenges you to see reading instruction as everyone's responsibility. How might our schools transform if literacy were treated not as a policy mandate but as a fundamental aspect of school culture? Listen now to join this essential conversation about reimagining literacy education for all learners.

    35 min
  2. 35. Breaking literacy barriers with Kaley Macis-Riley and Laura May Rowlands

    APR 29

    35. Breaking literacy barriers with Kaley Macis-Riley and Laura May Rowlands

    Host Andy Sammons welcomes two extraordinary educators who are transforming how schools approach literacy: Kaley Macis-Riley, Senior Lead for Quality of Education, and Laura May Rowlands, Head of English. Both working in schools with high levels of disadvantage, they share candidly about their journey to establish thriving reading cultures in an age dominated by smartphones and digital distractions. Kaley reveals how her school moved away from ineffective silent reading sessions to implementing the FAST reading approach—a structured method where adults model expressive reading of challenging, contextually relevant texts. She explains how they've created the "Samworth Canon," carefully selecting books students wouldn't typically choose themselves but that open new worlds and perspectives. This approach acknowledges that many students aren't naturally reading for pleasure, and instead creates purposeful reading experiences with explicit vocabulary instruction. Laura describes her school's multi-faceted literacy strategy, including their remarkable success with Bedrock Vocabulary, their vibrant library space, and even a book vending machine that serves as a visible celebration of reading achievement. She emphasises how they've made reading "a joyful thing" through careful text selection and explicit connections between vocabulary across different subjects. Both educators passionately advocate for disciplinary literacy—teaching students the specific language patterns of different subjects. From science teachers exploring etymology to history teachers explicitly teaching adverbial phrases, they describe how this approach empowers students to articulate complex ideas with confidence. As Laura notes, "When you are given the knowledge of how to articulate yourself...you're more likely to have an opinion and communicate your perspective." Most powerfully, they speak to the moral imperative behind their work. Kaley emphasises explaining the "why" to students: "The biggest factor for your success outside of socio-economic background is literacy." Their ultimate goal transcends academic outcomes—they're ensuring students can confidently take their place in society, participate in discourse, and avoid manipulation due to limited literacy skills. For anyone concerned about student literacy or seeking to build a more effective reading culture, this conversation offers both practical strategies and profound inspiration. These educators demonstrate that with the right approaches, schools can nurture confident, curious readers ready to engage with complex texts and ideas across all subjects.

    40 min
  3. 34. The Role of EdTech within Literacy with Jenny Webb

    APR 22

    34. The Role of EdTech within Literacy with Jenny Webb

    What happens when we treat reading as a checkbox rather than an ongoing developmental journey? Jenny Webb, Director of English and Literacy at Carlton Academy Trust, pulls back the curtain on the challenging reality of literacy in UK schools today. Despite government claims about improvements in reading standards, educators are experiencing something quite different in classrooms. Jenny explains how up to 25% of children in less advantaged areas cannot functionally read, yet many schools remain unaware because they're not testing properly. She challenges the artificial barrier we've created between reading and learning, arguing that reading proficiency continues developing throughout teenage years and beyond - long after basic phonics have been mastered. The conversation explores how schools function as evolving ecosystems requiring flexible, adaptable systems rather than one-size-fits-all approaches. Each year brings new cohorts with different needs, yet school leaders often face immense pressure to move quickly to the next initiative instead of maintaining sustained attention on literacy development. Educational technology emerges as a powerful ally when implemented thoughtfully. Jenny shares how adaptive reading assessments can provide nuanced understanding of students' abilities, freeing teachers to focus on the meaningful human connections that make education transformative. "What has to be me and what doesn't have to be me?" she asks, articulating the complementary relationship between technology and teaching. Whether you're an educator, parent, or literacy advocate, this conversation offers a compelling framework for understanding and addressing the complex literacy challenges facing students today. Listen now to discover how combining sound educational principles, responsive technology, and human connection can create more effective literacy development for all students.

    37 min
  4. 33. Getting implementation right: Upstream, downstream and root causes with Mark Miller

    MAR 27

    33. Getting implementation right: Upstream, downstream and root causes with Mark Miller

    How do schools successfully implement change that actually sticks? Mark Miller, Director of Bradford Research School, joins us to break down the recent updates to the Education Endowment Foundation's implementation guidance - revealing why the social dimensions of change might be the most critical factor for success. The conversation dives deep into why schools often rush past the crucial "explore" phase of implementation, jumping to solutions before properly understanding problems. Mark shares practical strategies for "shrinking" nebulous issues like literacy into manageable components using frameworks such as the Reading House and the Simple View of Writing. We explore the distinction between upstream causes and downstream symptoms in education - illustrated through the powerful metaphor of people falling into a river. Do we rescue them downstream or prevent them from falling in upstream? The answer, of course, is both - but knowing where to focus limited resources requires careful analysis. Perhaps most valuable is Mark's insight into the three key implementation behaviours: engage, reflect, and unite. These social processes determine whether change efforts succeed or fail in educational settings. When schools unite around core values, engage diverse stakeholders, and reflect continuously on progress, implementation becomes not just a technical process but a powerful catalyst for school improvement. Whether you're tackling literacy challenges, behaviour systems, or curriculum redesign, this conversation offers practical wisdom for making change that genuinely transforms student outcomes. What problem are you really trying to solve, and are you taking the time to explore it properly? Mark has led Bradford Research School since its inception in 2018. He has worked for Dixons Academies Trust for over a decade, having spent many years at Dixons Kings Academy, teaching English and leading teacher development. Before that, he was a lead practitioner in English, working in Leeds. Mark works with teachers and school leaders regionally and nationally to implement evidence-informed approaches that can improve outcomes for all children and young people, but particularly those from socio-economically disadvantaged backgrounds. You can hear more from Mark via @markmillerteach and Bradford Research School via @BradResearchSch.

    34 min
  5. 32. Reading is learning: Breaking down the artificial barrier with Natalie Wexler

    MAR 11

    32. Reading is learning: Breaking down the artificial barrier with Natalie Wexler

    Natalie Wexler joins Andy Sammons to tackle one of education's most persistent challenges: the artificial barrier between reading and learning. This eye-opening conversation dives deep into why traditional approaches to reading comprehension don't work - and what cognitive science tells us actually does. Wexler, author of The Knowledge Gap and co-author of The Writing Revolution, unpacks how our current methods of teaching reading comprehension - as isolated skills, divorced from content - fundamentally misunderstand how comprehension works. She explains why background knowledge functions as "mental Velcro" for new information, and why simply practicing skills like making inferences without content knowledge, fails to develop proficient readers. The discussion takes a fascinating turn when exploring how narrative serves as a powerful vehicle for learning across all subjects. Wexler shares compelling research, showing that students who received content through structured narratives demonstrated significantly better understanding than those who participated in seemingly engaging hands-on activities. "The human brain is hardwired to take in information more easily when it's presented in narrative form," Wexler notes, challenging us to reconsider what effective instruction looks like beyond superficial engagement. Perhaps most valuable for educators are the practical strategies Wexler offers for implementation. From sentence-level writing activities like appositives, to structured retrieval practice, to explicit outlining instruction; she provides concrete techniques that enhance both reading comprehension and content knowledge simultaneously. She emphasises that writing about content powerfully reinforces learning, but requires appropriate scaffolding to avoid cognitive overload for inexperienced writers. Whether you're a literacy specialist, subject teacher, or education leader, this conversation will transform how you think about reading instruction. Listen now to discover why bridging the gap between reading and learning is essential for developing truly proficient readers and thinkers.

    36 min
  6. 31. Revolutionising Education: Aaron Leary's Journey from Teacher to Innovator

    FEB 25

    31. Revolutionising Education: Aaron Leary's Journey from Teacher to Innovator

    Aaron Leary's journey - from a student grappling with language to co-founding Bedrock Learning - illustrates the transformative power of literacy in education. This episode explores personal experiences, teaching philosophies, and future aspirations in the PedTech sphere. Literacy, Aaron reveals, is more than just words; it’s a tool that shapes our thoughts and identities, a concept that lies at the heart of Bedrock’s mission. Tune in as we explore the empowering role of oracy and debate in education. Aaron passionately discusses how these tools have the power to boost confidence and eloquence in students, especially in challenging environments. We also consider the impact of technology on communication skills, sparking a conversation on whether banning smartphones could improve cognitive functions and moods. Such insights are foundational to Bedrock Learning’s innovative approach, addressing the need for engaging and effective educational tools that elevate literacy education to new heights. Finally, we delve into the crucial role of vocabulary instruction within school curricula. Aaron outlines Bedrock’s pioneering efforts in developing a Tier 2 vocabulary curriculum and integrating technology to simplify educational resources. With a vision of preparing for futures shaped by AI and societal changes, this episode is a testament to the transformative power of education and Bedrock's relentless pursuit of innovation.

    46 min
  7. 30. Interdisciplinary approaches to modern education with Carl Gombrich

    JAN 21

    30. Interdisciplinary approaches to modern education with Carl Gombrich

    Carl Gombrich is the Lead Academic at London Interdisciplinary School and oversees curriculum design, teaching, and learning. He was previously a Professorial Teaching Fellow of Interdisciplinary Education at UCL and is a Principal Fellow of the Higher Education Academy. In this episode, prepare to rethink higher education as Carl shares his journey in pioneering a revolutionary academic model. Discover how LIS challenges traditional university structures by focusing on real-world issues like inequality and sustainability, rather than conventional subjects. Carl offers a compelling vision of how students can be equipped with diverse methodologies, empowering them to generate and critique knowledge actively and creatively. Our conversation also navigates the intricate balance between domain-specific expertise and essential 21st-century skills. We confront the ongoing debate between upholding academic rigor and fostering a skillset that's applicable in the modern workforce. Drawing from personal experiences and insights, we propose a balanced educational approach, integrating transferable skills and cross-disciplinary frameworks. The importance of structured secondary education is highlighted, setting the stage for success in both academia and future career paths. Finally, we explore the transformative potential of AI in education and innovative assessment methods that push the boundaries of traditional learning. Hear about the exciting ways students are engaging with AI, not just as passive consumers but as critical thinkers and creators. As we look towards future trends in education reform, Carl and I challenge the outdated remnants of the Victorian education system, advocating for a more integrated curriculum that truly prepares students for the complexities of the modern world. Join us in championing a holistic educational experience that bridges the gap between traditional methods and the skills indispensable in today's job market.

    43 min

  8. 11/28/2024

    29. The future of English with Elizabeth Draper

    Ever wondered how English education is evolving to meet the demands of our rapidly changing world? Join us for a fascinating conversation with Elizabeth Draper, a trailblazer in the realm of English education, as we uncover the profound shifts shaping this field. With over three decades of experience and her current role as deputy chair of the English Association, Elizabeth shares invaluable insights into creating a more inclusive and innovative approach to English studies. From her pioneering efforts to integrate further education into the English Association's mission to her creative projects during lockdown, Elizabeth reveals how ambition and collaboration are key to nurturing creativity and learning across educational sectors. Explore the dynamic landscape of 21st-century English education, where we spotlight the transformative power of oracy in developing articulate and critical thinkers. As technology continues to reshape our lives, Elizabeth emphasizes a balanced approach that encompasses knowledge, skills, creativity, and empathy. Delve into the heartwarming power of storytelling and fiction in fostering empathy and bridging divides, with inspiring examples from organizations like Narrative 4. Throughout our discussion, we celebrate the diverse richness of the English language and the collaborative spirit that drives meaningful educational change. Engage with us in this episode of Bedrock Talks to gain a fresh perspective on the role of English studies in cultivating a more empathetic and connected world.

    36 min
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Welcome to Bedrock Talks, a podcast from the team at Bedrock Learning that delves deep into the heart of literacy in education. Hosted by the insightful and experienced educator Andy Sammons, this podcast stands as a beacon for anyone passionate about enhancing literacy skills and understanding its pivotal role in education.Each episode is a journey into the world of literacy education. Andy brings together a diverse array of voices from across the education sector, from seasoned teachers to renowned academics, policy makers to literacy advocates. All of our guests share a common goal: to explore and expand the horizons of literacy education.We go beyond surface-level conversations. Our discussions are in-depth, nuanced, and filled with insights that only years of experience and expertise can bring. We tackle a wide range of topics, from innovative teaching methods to the latest research in literacy, the impact of technology on reading and writing, to strategies for engaging diverse learners. Our aim is to provide a platform where the complexities of literacy are unpacked and understood in a way that is both accessible and enlightening.Join Andy and his guests as they illuminate the multifaceted world of literacy. Subscribe to Bedrock Talks and be part of a community that believes in the transformative power of literacy. Together, let's shape a more literate, informed, and connected world.

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