Why are there two popes on the loose in Europe?

Can Louisa convince Dan that Richard’s best mate, Robert De Vere, was his lover? Plus, two mean-spirited popes divide royal allegiances. If you want more This Is History, become a royal favourite on our Patreon, where you can indulge in some spicy court gossip, vote on future episodes, and chat with Dan from time to time. Hit patreon.com/thisishistory to sign up. A Sony Music Entertainment production. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Presented by Dan Jones and Louisa Field Producer – Alan Weedon Senior Producer - Selina Ream Executive Producer - Louisa Field Production Manager - Jen Mistri Mixing - Gulliver Lawrence-Tickell